Trump blurted insults and showed off lewd photos at shivah for accountant's mother: report

[DonViejo]

Travis Gettys
March 12, 2021

Donald Trump showed off nude photos and made passes at family members as his accountant's family sat shivah for their matriarch.

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Jennifer Weisselberg first met Trump before she was married at the accountant's modest home in Wantagh, Long Island, as the family sat shivah for Allen Weisselburg's mother, and Trump wasted no time insulting his company's chief financial officer.

"This is where my C.F.O. lives?" Trump said, getting out of his limousine. "It's embarrassing!" Once inside, Trump showed off photographs of himself with naked women on a yacht to shivah attendees before turning his attention to Jennifer Weisselberg, a former dancer and choreographer.

"After that, he starts hitting on me," she said.

Allen Weisselberg humored Trump instead of standing up for her -- or himself -- and she that helps explain why she doubts that her former father-in-law would turn on Trump under pressure, as longtime attorney Michael Cohen eventually did.

https://www.rawstory.com/allen-weisselberg-donald-trump/

[Cirque du So-What]

1. Every word of this rings true

I hope she's wrong about Allen Weisselberg, however, and that he decides to sing.

[usaf-vet]

15. He'll sing if the fed's have the goods on him. It's the sing or go to jail routine.

[TheBlackAdder]

37. They have leverage over his sons too. While Allen is old and beholden to Trump, his son's aren't.

[Trueblue1968]

50. i hope they both have a fun ... maybe lewd time in jail together !!!!

[Irish_Dem]

2. The accountant adored and loved Donald to the point nothing else was important? Not even his family.

And craved Donald's attention and good will. That means the accountant would do anything for Trump?
And might not flip. I think everyone has an Achille's heel. The police need to find it and push hard on it.

You can see the text book case of narcissism. Trump surrounds himself with people who meet his needs for constant attention, adoration and praise.

[Azathoth]

9. You don't adore someone who humiliates your family

You side with him out of cowardice because you're afraid he might do the same thing to you.

[Irish_Dem]

11. It can be both, fear and adoration. The narcissist would love that combination.

[Azathoth]

13. It's the adoration of a bully

It's like the boy who offers to humiliate his younger brother in order to make the schoolyard bully laugh and think he's "cool".

Cohen used to do the same shit, even posting humiliatingly lewd remarks about his own daughter in a bid to appear more Trumpian.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Cult followers will go to any lengths to get the approval of their leader. And act out the leader's

evil wishes.

[Azathoth]

26. Up to a point. Even Scientologists eventually catch wise

The constant betrayals by the Great Leader begin to add up until the toll is unbearable.

But I don't think Weisselberg is a true flying-planes-into-buildings cultist. I think he was loyal to Trump's dad, and to his son by extension, and I think he's a weak-kneed tool who has spent most of his life trying to ingratiate himself with a bullying sociopath. But he's doing it out of greed and fear, not a deep religious conviction that Trump is the messiah.

[Irish_Dem]

46. The description that he had a deep sort of love bond with Trump is interesting.

So it is more than fear and greed. And greed does not seem to be an issue given his modest home?

People will do many things in the name of love.

But yes, to be clear we would have to interview Weisselberg to accurately assess the risk level, how prone to flipping, etc.

[Politicub]

31. And some people get in too deep, over their heads,

and drip-by-drip, their livelihood depends on pleasing a client who would ruin their careers if they confessed what they knew.

This is how a mob works.

[Irish_Dem]

47. Exactly. Recruit members carefully and subtly. Then ratchet up the involvement until it is too late

to get out.

[whathehell]

18. Cohen posted lewd remarks about his OWN DAUGHTER?..Seriously?

Can you say SHIT values?!

These Trump sycophants are SERIOUSLY fucked up!

[Azathoth]

22. Oh yeah

https://www.thecut.com/2017/05/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-tweets-modeling-shot-of-daughter.html

[whathehell]

28. No words..

Out of all the Trump cronies, Cohen was the only one I had something like "sympathy" for -- No more.

[Dan]

35. What's a spank-bank?

[Azathoth]

49. Think "spanking the money" n/t

[Turbineguy]

17. Trump sucks out people's souls.

[whathehell]

19. Nah..He attracts people without souls.

[Frustratedlady]

3. I swear that I read something about Weisselberg testifying and that he got immunity.

I'm sure he has testified before and I remember being surprised that he would do so after working for Trump all those years. It would be worth it to give him immunity at his age, as the testimony would be worth more than imprisoning an old man who was following orders. We all know that scenario is probably true for those who worked for Donny.

I'm sure Daddy taught Donny well...even to the point of treating his workers like crap.

[msfiddlestix]

5. I swear I remember reading that he testified and got immunity too

Sometime in the fall of 2018? lots of reports of indictments, Grand Jury hearings. everything came to a screeching halt though when Barr was installed and the severely edited report released. And we heard no more about that.

[Frustratedlady]

6. Thanks! Then I'm not losing my faculties?

I would think that if Weisselberg testified and Trump found out, his life wouldn't be worth a plug nickel, though.

Did it ever come out why Trump was in New York, this week? I assumed it was for a deposition...or a loan. Maybe he's selling the tower?

[msfiddlestix]

10. We're either both losing our "faculties" ..

or we're remembering some of the avalanche of reports involving Weisselberg and a cast of characters related to If memory serves even vaguely financial matters as related to the guy who owns The Enquirer (forget his name but it had a weird connotation) and matters related to a myriad of real estate transactions etc.

I recall there was a deposition he was required to appear in Manhattan I believe, that was my impression.

Honestly, it's been really hard to keep with the heaps and heaps of criminal activity involving that thug and his crime family.

[Arazi]

21. Limited immunity only for the Stormy Daniel's deal in order to imprison Michael Cohen

He turned witness to ensure Cohen went to jail.

His immunity was negotiated to only include that deal. He's a 1000% Trumper, so much so he turned ratfink

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/politics/allen-weisselberg-trump/index.html

[Frustratedlady]

24. Thanks! Yes, I just read that in the New Yorker article which was posted below in #7.

Very good article on Cyrus Vance. I'm not sure if I feel more positive about his pursuit of Trump, or not. Someone sure needs to get him. As old as Weisselberg is, I would hope he would be thinking about his legacy. Just sayin'.

[Arazi]

27. Or he's concerned that ratting out #Traitor brings the mob to his doorstep

And jeopardizes his family

[llashram]

4. dirtbag trump

is such a low life, no class pig...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Facinating New Yorker article this came from

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/22/can-cyrus-vance-jr-nail-trump?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=the-new-yorker&utm_social-type=earned

[Azathoth]

8. This is good news. It means Allen is a coward who *wants* to turn

but doesn't because he's afraid of being the target of Trump's fratboy routine. He's another simpering beta like Michael Cohen, desperately seeking to avoid humiliation at the hands of the alpha bully, even if that means letting the bully beat up on his family.

Investigators can work with this. No wonder they have a former mob prosecutor on the case.

I'd be a lot more worried if the story was about Trump having a genuine friendship with him in private. But Trump doesn't seem capable of that.

[Lonestarblue]

16. Weisselberg may be more afraid of what would happen to him if he flips.

Trump has ties to the NY/NJ and Russian mafias. We all remember what happened to Jeffrey Epstein. I will never believe he committed suicide. He simply knew too much about Trump and other famous people in that orbit. Perhaps NY needs to promise Weisselberg witness protection.

[Azathoth]

29. Trump is a nobody. Not even the mob would stick their necks out for him.

People outside of NYC business circles often don't realize that Trump was *never* taken seriously, especially by the NY real estate and business community. Everyone knew he was a clown. But he had tons of money and had built a brand with a thin veneer of luxury, so he got attention from social climbers.

Trump has "ties" with the mob in the sense that he's totally unethical and would make deals/take money from anyone, including mobsters. But the whole image of him as a Sinatra-like character with pull in mob circles is just false.

That's not to say that Trump wouldn't ask the mob to kill someone. He's a cognitively impaired sociopath. But he'd do it on Twitter, like his short bus coup attempt, because he's genuinely that stupid.

[wnylib]

32. You are probably right that

Trump's mob ties would not take out someone just because Trump wanted them to, although he no doubt knows some hit guys that he could personally hire. But, considering with whom Trump has financial ties, an accountant with knowledge of those intertwined finances would need to fear the mobs as well as Trump.

[Dan]

38. If trump wanted and asked for someone to be 'HIT',

If you had evidence of it, how much is that worth?

[plimsoll]

44. Are you kidding?

Any organized crime syndicate with any competence would kill for someone like Trump. Probably only once, because after you've done the deal for him he's yours. They have everything they need to burn him.

I suspect that he's probably compromised by several different criminal organizations, he's obviously been a horrible loan risk for decades, and yet he still seemed to get money. Organized criminal activity doesn't just mean the mafia, or Russian mobsters, there are plenty of sketchy organizations that present a legitimate facade. That Trump couldn't get loans from those people says that he was probably pretty well compromised to someone else and continuing to work with him put their facade at risk.

It kind of fits with some weird behavior of the modern GOP. Tons of projections, "Drain the swamp?" He's a great troll though, and so much of the modern GOP seems to be fixated with "owning the libs" regardless of the policy implications of an action. I suspect the criminality was also a big draw for his fanboys. We're all appalled because the guy is pretty clearly a crook, but every revelation of criminality just solidified his popularity with is supporters. They wouldn't care that he'd had someone killed. But law enforcement probably would.

That said, remember Antonin Scalia's comments on Torture and 24, "No jury is going to convict Jack Bauer." It pretty much spells out that conservatives and the GOP in particular are not interested in Law.

[Azathoth]

48. Yeah, no

Any organized crime syndicate with any competence would kill for someone like Trump.

This is an example of a perfectly false statement.

The very definition of a competent criminal organization is one that wouldn't do anything for Trump, except perhaps loan him money at 300% interest. Nobody is going to risk life in prison for a mentally unstable clown who will likely brag to Howard Stern about what you did.

Trump is a nobody. He's not a mobster or a crime boss or even a businessman. He's a clown who inherited a ton of money, inadvertently turned it into a brand through his own compulsive antics, and then got marketed by cynical Hollywood execs as a reality TV celebrity.

[Arazi]

51. Nope. Trump inherited the family biz, and Weisselberg, from Fred Sr

Trump didn't build anything. He got handed the mob business because Fred Jr drank too much and Donny was recognized as a psychopath.

Weisselberg's been the main frame for Trump Crime Syndicate throughout all of it from the earliest days.

Trump puts his name on shit from Azerbaijan to Panama and lets the mob launder their cash either thru the "construction" or thru the "sale/resale" of condos. Trump tried to organize his own construction company building casinos, Soho etc but he's so fucking stupid, he had to give that up.

Trump's sons said the quiet part out loud in the 90s when they said they don't need banks anymore - they get all their money from Russians.

The mob definitely needs stupid thugs like Trump to front the shady shit while Russians like Deripaska actually run the show. CIA analyst Clint Watts and others like Malcolm Nance and Natasha Bertrand have some really interesting info on all of this

[WhiteTara]

12. Then I guess he will go down with him.

[gab13by13]

20. Trump didn't go there for Shiva,

I guarantee that. He went to personally deliver a message to his accountant.

[MontanaMama]

23. As one does...

When they’re a mobster.

[wnylib]

34. Yup. Just his presence was a message.

But his behavior there reminds me of the movie, This is Where I Leave You.

[Dan]

39. If so....wire tapped anyone?

[JT45242]

25. I'm betting if the options are die in a prison we choose for you far from your family or turn ..

He will choose a shorter sentence at a minimum security facility within driving distance of his family rather than dozens of years in a hell hole in the middle of nowhere.

This is not the real mob. He is not going to take a bullet for trump. Especially when they start talking RICO and seizing every last one of his ill gotten assets.

I missed the gang tattoos on the trump goons -- the initiations -- trump plays like a gangster or gang lord, but his goons aren't thug life more like hot cocoa mug life.

[Arazi]

30. #Traitor is a Russian mob money launderer for some of the worst top guys

This is most definitely the "real" mob and Weisselberg's family would be literally killed in front of his eyes if he flips..

He's old which is why I'm sure he won't flip. He'll kill himself first (or fall out a window)

[Dan]

40. We're not in Russia and Trump is to hot to be

Useful anymore unless he plans to use the GQP tp launder money? In that case the whole GOP would be subject to RICO....wow.

[Arazi]

43. We're discussing Weisselberg and whether he'll rat out Trump

And by extension Oleg Deripaska, Putin etc.

There's speculation that Trump's been a mob criminal informant for several decades and that's why he's never been prosecuted.

It would also explain why he'll never be "too hot". He's protected by the FBI. He gives up some schmoe that even the Russians want dead, in return he skates.

It's been a sweet deal for everyone for many years. There's a reason Freeh is now a mob lawyer etc. These guys are all in on it.

And yes, a lot of Rs are in on it. Start with the eight who went to Russia for the 4th of July, then move onto Rohrabacher, then #MoscowMitch (whose also got dirty deals with the Chinese via his wife, Elaine Chao) etc

[BobTheSubgenius]

33. I'm starting to think he might not be the nicest person you could ever meet.

He might even be a bit creepy.

[sandensea]

36. So NATURALLY this is the person most Chumpkins felt would be the perfect president

"That's whut I would've done - if I could!"

[UTUSN]

41. K&R

[nolabear]

42. Same as it ever was. A crass, classless, entitled boor.

Why men fall in love with him is a study in psychology that will be done again and again for years to come.

[calimary]

45. Because the runt sidling up to the (perceived) big guy

makes the runt feel bigger, and more “happening”.

[nolabear]

52. True dat.