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hlthe2b

(113,976 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:43 PM Aug 2020

Apparently not a hoax: The White House Has 'Asked About Process to Add President to Mount Rushmore'

The White House Has ‘Asked About the Process to Add a President to Mount Rushmore’




https://www.politicalflare.com/2020/08/trump-bragged-to-club-members-before-press-conference-all-my-killers-are-there-wow/?utm_source=right-rail-latest


The White House Has 'Asked About the Process to Add a President to Mount Rushmore'

This. Is. Unbelievable.

We all know that Donald Trump wants to be on Mount Rushmore, we have heard him whine that he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, and every time he brings up something “jokingly” (something he wants) everyone understands that he’s not “joking,” which is why we all take the comments about a third or fourth term fairly seriously, or at least as seriously as one can when talking about an obese man who is already declining in his early 70s. But apparently the “joke” about Mount Rushmore is serious enough that the White House has “looked into it.”

No, we’re not kidding.

According an article out in today’s New York Times about South Dakota’s governor Kristi Noem, the subject has been raised between the Trump White House and South Dakota:

After all, the president had told her in the Oval Office that he aspired to have his image etched on the monument. And last year, a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?

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Are they that stupid? Do they believe that South Dakota has a committee of some kind that meets every year to determine whether there’s suddenly a president worthy of putting up on Mount Rushmore? Every ten years? Do they call and ask whether the man who created the monument (Gutzon Borglum) is still dead? Do they not know that it is a federal monument? Actually, it is best that they don’t know that it is a federal monument. Let them believe that South Dakota “owns” it. Indeed, it’s a terribly complicated process and it involves spending a winter in Pierre. That will end the calls.

And what president wants to be the one asking about being on the monument? Doesn’t that alone prove that Trump is unfit for office? We have said this before about the Nobel Peace Prize and we were “joking,” but apparently we need to spell it out. Anyone who expresses a desire to win a Nobel Peace Prize is automatically excluded from consideration, and similarly, any U.S. president that doesn’t turn white in abject horror if someone mentions putting him/her on Rushmore, should be forced to step down. Thankfully, there doesn’t appear to be room even if someone thought it was a good idea, and near as we can tell, there is only one person who thinks adding Trump is a good idea and he didn’t spend a winter in …

We believe that Joe Biden should bring this up during the debate. “Do you really believe that, of all the presidents, you are the one who belongs on Mount Rushmore?” and see how Trump handles it. He will go all-in.

Unbelievable, “process for adding a president …”

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Apparently not a hoax: The White House Has 'Asked About Process to Add President to Mount Rushmore' (Original Post) hlthe2b Aug 2020 OP
Spot on retort: hlthe2b Aug 2020 #1
Lincoln ChazInAz Aug 2020 #37
politicalflare.com? I'll wait for more corroboration SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #2
Click through the article. It links to the New York Times. Hong Kong Cavalier Aug 2020 #4
first you have to be dead. See if you (Trump) can arrange that to happen ASAP rurallib Aug 2020 #11
Maybe if we just buy him a few hundred bucks' worth of McDonald's gift cards? Hong Kong Cavalier Aug 2020 #14
Really? I didn't know that. I do know you have to be dead to be on a stamp... CTyankee Aug 2020 #23
Making an assumption based on those on the mountain now. rurallib Aug 2020 #24
Well, I'm all for it then! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #31
Well, I'm all for it then! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #32
A NEW YORK TIMES link was also included. Is THAT ok for YOU? hlthe2b Aug 2020 #7
Will this do? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #44
and one thinks the defamation to his Hollywood Star is bad? There would be no end Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #3
Lol yeah padah513 Aug 2020 #5
I say we name a mountain after him instead. 5X Aug 2020 #6
That was my first thought. ooky Aug 2020 #19
ROFLMAO!!!!! AZ8theist Aug 2020 #46
Mt Flushmore lame54 Aug 2020 #56
If he "wins" the election I'm in favor of it lostnfound Aug 2020 #8
Would a tasteful neon sign right on top be good enough? Buns_of_Fire Aug 2020 #9
It's South Dakota. There has to be a large pile of horse shit near Mount Rushmore rurallib Aug 2020 #10
They oughta be able to come up with a truckload of buffalo chips...... lastlib Aug 2020 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2020 #12
Not a hoax; according to today's NYT, Fat Nixon really does want to be on Mt. Rushmore. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #13
Oh FFS... Lucinda Aug 2020 #39
That's some industrial-strength sucking up, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #42
Absolutely! Lucinda Aug 2020 #58
Remember Ferdinand Marcos? Archae Aug 2020 #15
There's the rumor needed, just in case soothsayer Aug 2020 #16
Oy Vey! Generic Other Aug 2020 #17
+1 Lucinda Aug 2020 #40
A sculpture at Mar-A-Lago molded out of ammonium nitrate would be nice. Towlie Aug 2020 #18
+ 1000! scarletwoman Aug 2020 #59
President Obama Sugarcoated Aug 2020 #20
They should tell Trump Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #33
Nobody should be up there. The mountain should be returned to the people who Maru Kitteh Aug 2020 #52
We could help get Donald's image in front of most children who visit DC. NCjack Aug 2020 #21
I think we should get his image in every post office . . . on a wanted poster. Vinca Aug 2020 #22
Maybe the WH people should consult with the Sioux first. alwaysinasnit Aug 2020 #25
He might be dumb as a rock... Blue Owl Aug 2020 #26
Okay, here's an idea: Redo Stone Mountain. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2020 #27
Great idea. My first thought exactly. Captain Zero Aug 2020 #50
Don't worry Donnie Dipshit maxrandb Aug 2020 #28
Maxrandb Illumination Aug 2020 #48
Yes, they still put the FBI Most Wanted list in the Post Office. maxrandb Aug 2020 #61
Mount Rushmore is seismically unstable... jmowreader Aug 2020 #29
Shit, he doesn't even deserve a monument at Forest Lawn. Initech Aug 2020 #30
I believe he wants more to have a presidential funeral like J.F.K.s LiberalArkie Aug 2020 #34
You have got to be fucking kidding me. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #35
If he manages to remain president he will be up there. Kablooie Aug 2020 #36
The first Black President surely deserves a place first LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #38
Now that has style! Harker Aug 2020 #43
I remember this being talked about BHDem53 Aug 2020 #41
LOL!!! We're going to put an image of an impeached, corrupt, condescending, do nothing, Illumination Aug 2020 #45
Why do his photos always look so phony? Sort of staged with a smug look? Oh that's right-he's Illumination Aug 2020 #51
Isn't that kind of like having him painted in on the Mona Lisa? kskiska Aug 2020 #47
I'm glad he wants to add Obama to Mt Rushmore. CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #53
My choice is Barak Obama. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #54
.."it involves spending a winter in Pierre." SergeStorms Aug 2020 #55
1. Buy a Sharpie. moondust Aug 2020 #57
Off topic, but does anyone else see a bunch of "line" and "line line" encodings on this page? hlthe2b Aug 2020 #60
Apparently Donnie Dumbass didn't watch what happened to all the Saddam statues in Iraq and... WyattKansas Aug 2020 #62
Too arrogant and narcissistic to consider. Consequences? To other people, maybe. hlthe2b Aug 2020 #63

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,607 posts)
4. Click through the article. It links to the New York Times.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:48 PM
Aug 2020

It's mentioned in that article:

After all, the president had told her in the Oval Office that he aspired to have his image etched on the monument. And last year, a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
24. Making an assumption based on those on the mountain now.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:43 PM
Aug 2020

Actually I believe the choices for who is there now were made by the sculptor, Gutzon Borglum. Since Borglum is long gone, I doubt he will be choosing any more. https://www.nps.gov/moru/learn/historyculture/why-these-four-presidents.htm

I still say a large pile of South Dakota horse shit, maybe with some pig shit and cow shit would be a fine representation of Trump.

hlthe2b

(113,976 posts)
7. A NEW YORK TIMES link was also included. Is THAT ok for YOU?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:52 PM
Aug 2020

The paywall for NYT makes it difficult to use as a primary source, but here:


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/us/politics/kristi-noem-pence-trump.html#click=https://t.co/jfvrGHqGlx


After all, the president had told her in the Oval Office that he aspired to have his image etched on the monument. And last year, a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?


That link appeared in the original linked article too.

padah513

(2,710 posts)
5. Lol yeah
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:49 PM
Aug 2020

Like people are going to put this future jailbird on Mt. Rushmore with his 36% approval rating.

ooky

(10,922 posts)
19. That was my first thought.
Reply to 5X (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:23 PM
Aug 2020

Carve his ass in the mountainside since he talks out of it all the time.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
8. If he "wins" the election I'm in favor of it
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 04:56 PM
Aug 2020

Make it a symbol of shame for eternity- twenty years from now the future primitives can carve “GOP” or “666” under his chin, whatever suits them. And use it as a garbage dump.

Shame. They have brought so much shame to the country.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
9. Would a tasteful neon sign right on top be good enough?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:00 PM
Aug 2020

Oops, my mistake. That's already planned for the Supreme Leader's Compound (formerly known as the White House).

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
10. It's South Dakota. There has to be a large pile of horse shit near Mount Rushmore
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:03 PM
Aug 2020

that someone could stick a sign on calling it the Trump Memorial.

Perhaps those forced to live on a reservation in South Dakota would like to gather horse shit into a large pile for this purpose.

lastlib

(28,279 posts)
49. They oughta be able to come up with a truckload of buffalo chips......
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:33 PM
Aug 2020

Pile those up somewhere, and they won't even have to carve any rock.

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,540 posts)
13. Not a hoax; according to today's NYT, Fat Nixon really does want to be on Mt. Rushmore.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:05 PM
Aug 2020
After all, the president had told (SD Gov. Noem) in the Oval Office that he aspired to have his image etched on the monument. And last year, a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?

So last month, when the president arrived in the Black Hills for the star-spangled spectacle he had pined for, Ms. Noem made the most of it.

Introducing Mr. Trump against the floodlit backdrop of his carved predecessors, the governor played to the president’s craving for adulation by noting that in just three days more than 125,000 people had signed up for only 7,500 seats; she likened him to Theodore Roosevelt, a leader who “braves the dangers of the arena”; and she mimicked the president’s rhetoric by scorning protesters who she said were seeking to discredit the country’s founders.

In private, the efforts to charm Mr. Trump were more pointed, according to a person familiar with the episode: Ms. Noem greeted him with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included a fifth presidential likeness: his.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/us/politics/kristi-noem-pence-trump.html

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
39. Oh FFS...
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

"...Ms. Noem greeted him with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included a fifth presidential likeness: his."


The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,540 posts)
42. That's some industrial-strength sucking up,
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:24 PM
Aug 2020

and I'll bet Fat Nixon keeps that replica in his bedroom and uses it like porn.

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
15. Remember Ferdinand Marcos?
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:07 PM
Aug 2020

The dictator of the Phillipines?

He had a giant head constructed on a hill, of himself.

Years after he was gone and finally died, some guys blew up most of that head looking for hidden money, that they had heard was in the giant head.
It wasn't.

Towlie

(5,577 posts)
18. A sculpture at Mar-A-Lago molded out of ammonium nitrate would be nice.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:16 PM
Aug 2020

Even with sculptures of worthy presidents, Mount Rushmore is a defacement of nature and an abomination. I think it should be returned to the Lakota Sioux with an apology and encouragement to do with it as they choose.

Sugarcoated

(8,240 posts)
20. President Obama
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

One of the greatest Presidents in history, first black President should be up there

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
33. They should tell Trump
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:00 PM
Aug 2020

Obama is next in line before they consider anyone else.

And it costs five billion dollars, paid in full before any work begins.

Maru Kitteh

(31,765 posts)
52. Nobody should be up there. The mountain should be returned to the people who
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:42 PM
Aug 2020

rightfully own it to do with as they wish.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
21. We could help get Donald's image in front of most children who visit DC.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:32 PM
Aug 2020

The Lincoln Memorial could be altered. Change Abe's head to Donnie's. I think that Donnie would find this acceptable.

alwaysinasnit

(5,624 posts)
25. Maybe the WH people should consult with the Sioux first.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/rushmore-sioux/

snip...

In 1927, with a history of turmoil as a background, a white man living in Connecticut came into the Black Hills and dynamited and drilled the faces of four white men onto Mount Rushmore. At the outset of the project, Gutzon Borglum had persuaded South Dakota state historian Doane Robinson the presidents would give the work national significance, rejecting Robinson's initial suggestion that the sculpture honor the West's greatest heroes, both Native Americans and pioneers.

The insult of Rushmore to some Sioux is at least three-fold:

1. It was built on land the government took from them.
2. The Black Hills in particular are considered sacred ground.
3.The monument celebrates the European settlers who killed so many Native Americans and appropriated their land.

To counter the white faces of Rushmore, in 1939 Sioux Chief Henry Standing Bear invited sculptor Korczak Ziolkowski, who worked briefly at Rushmore, to carve a memorial to the Sioux nation in the Black Hills. Perhaps wary of Borglum's troubles with financial administrators, Ziolkowski personally bought a mountain top with a granite ridge and financed the entire project privately. The statue, envisioned as a freestanding sculpture of the great Sioux chief Crazy Horse, will be much larger than any of the Rushmore figures. Korczak Ziolkowski died in 1982, but his family continues to work on this awesome undertaking; Crazy Horse's face was completed and dedicated in 1998. Although the subject of this work addresses one aspect of Rushmore's offenses, the land is still considered Sioux property, and the mountain that the Ziolkowskis are carving is still sacred. The Crazy Horse monument is not without its own dissenters and critics.

Blue Owl

(59,111 posts)
26. He might be dumb as a rock...
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

But let's not deface any rocks by carving out his likeness on them...

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
27. Okay, here's an idea: Redo Stone Mountain.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:17 PM
Aug 2020


Sandblast off Lee, Jackson, and Davis.
Leave the butt end of Traveler (Lee's horse).

* Gets rid of the Civil War imagery.
* Since the horse's ass will remain, there would only be minimal extra work to make it into trump's likeness. A can or two of orange Rust-Oleum should do it.
* There'd be lots more blank space for the laser shows.
* Heads would explode among the MAGAts about whether Robert E., Stonewall, and Jefferson should be replaced by an orange horse's ass.

Everybody wins!

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
50. Great idea. My first thought exactly.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:35 PM
Aug 2020

Get him up there on a horse. Make him pose on a horse for it.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
28. Don't worry Donnie Dipshit
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:34 PM
Aug 2020

your image will be up at Post Offices all over the country soon enough.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
48. Maxrandb
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:33 PM
Aug 2020

For a wanted poster you mean? The list of crimes would be off the charts! What a mobster!

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
29. Mount Rushmore is seismically unstable...
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:47 PM
Aug 2020

...which means any attempt to carve Trump's face into the mountain could very well cause the other four faces to slide off.

But what would fix Trump's little red wagon is to make a Mount Rushmore-size likeness of Obama out of fiberglass and glue it to the side of the mountain with the same epoxy the tiles in the Boston tunnel are glued to the ceiling with.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:03 PM
Aug 2020

What a flaming narcissist! To have the worst "president" in the history of the nation up there would be a grievous insult to the memories of the other four. It is unthinkable. Who the hell does he think he is?

Even his Hollywood Star has been repeatedly vandalized. Does he really think that any statue, monument or likeness of him - no matter how big - will ever be allowed to stand un-desecrated? He may be able to cheat his way to victory, but that doesn't change the fact that he is the most hated man on the face of the earth.

Kablooie

(19,108 posts)
36. If he manages to remain president he will be up there.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:05 PM
Aug 2020

If he remains as president after January, America won't be a constitutional republic anymore.
The Constitution will be gone and America will become a true fascist dictatorship so of course Trump will put himself up there.

BHDem53

(1,139 posts)
41. I remember this being talked about
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:24 PM
Aug 2020

when raygun was in office. Fortunately there is no orange granite on The Six Grandfathers.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
45. LOL!!! We're going to put an image of an impeached, corrupt, condescending, do nothing,
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:29 PM
Aug 2020

overweight perv. so called "pres" on Mr. Rushmore? Must have been the Perv-in-Chief's idea. NO ONE would want to look @ that mess of a man-child (that doesn't care if there's bounties on our troops) Or even bounties on Americans! Mary Trump thinks he should be held accountable for the
app. 160,000+++ American deaths that he's had NO CONCERN about whatsoever. Americans just want him GONE & LOCKED UP FOR LIFE! He is a threat to humanity & the world!

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
51. Why do his photos always look so phony? Sort of staged with a smug look? Oh that's right-he's
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:39 PM
Aug 2020

a FAKE PRESIDENT! Makes sense now...

54. My choice is Barak Obama.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020
There are other reasons:

“First, the rock that surrounds the sculpted faces is not suitable for additional carving. When Gutzon Borglum, the sculptor of Mount Rushmore died in 1941, his son Lincoln Borglum closed down the project and stated that no more carvable rock existed.”

As far as I know, no president has stated his desire to have his face carved on the monument while he was still in office. Until now, of course.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
55. .."it involves spending a winter in Pierre."
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:48 PM
Aug 2020

"Hey, Kristi, who's this Pierre guy? Do you think he'd settle for a reach-around?"

moondust

(21,288 posts)
57. 1. Buy a Sharpie.
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:27 PM
Aug 2020

2. Print a picture of Mt. Rushmore.

3. Lay them both on the Resolute desk.

4. Come back in an hour and voila! Preserved for all time until you can find a shredder!



hlthe2b

(113,976 posts)
60. Off topic, but does anyone else see a bunch of "line" and "line line" encodings on this page?
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
62. Apparently Donnie Dumbass didn't watch what happened to all the Saddam statues in Iraq and...
Sun Aug 9, 2020, 03:15 PM
Aug 2020

Other countries that had tyrants pissing on the people.

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