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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:39 PM Jan 2020

If you don't think there's a double standard in how Duchess of Sussex has been treated ...

The contrast is pretty striking. Thanks to BuzzFeed for putting this together.

Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That Might Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters
Over the years, Meghan has been shamed for the same things for which her sister-in-law, Kate, has been praised.




and 19 more at link ... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?__twitter_impression=true


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If you don't think there's a double standard in how Duchess of Sussex has been treated ... (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2020 OP
Yeah, that's pretty damn blatant Leith Jan 2020 #1
Remember when Obama said that if he had a son he would look Maraya1969 Jan 2020 #39
I never gave a shat about the Royals - accept for admiring Diana's courage and work - IndyOp Jan 2020 #2
If a person doesn't think there's a difference, they're being willfully obtuse. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #3
Shameful. CrispyQ Jan 2020 #4
I had tried really hard not to follow anything royal knightmaar Jan 2020 #5
My feeling this whole time was, "I thought we kicked King George's ass!" CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #19
I'm living in Canada ... knightmaar Jan 2020 #31
With the publicity this is generating, Canada might consider a wall from Minnesota to Washingyon CaptYossarian Jan 2020 #32
I'm not surprised given that the Royals represent generations of extreme white privilege. jalan48 Jan 2020 #6
It doesn't seem that the royals are the problem. It's the press. StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #7
Extreme German privilege. geardaddy Jan 2020 #13
I was looking at this earlier mcar Jan 2020 #8
I would have to care about either the Royal Family or Meghan Markle to be troubled... brooklynite Jan 2020 #9
HAAAAAA!!! You always come through. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #15
I do my part... brooklynite Jan 2020 #16
It's not a double standard, it's the standard ToxMarz Jan 2020 #10
the double standard is clearly evident in the article stopdiggin Jan 2020 #24
And deadly Wawannabe Jan 2020 #33
I really have no dog in this fight TNNurse Jan 2020 #11
Privilege or no, such catty, bitchy coverage would get old for anyone dlk Jan 2020 #12
This cartoon says it all about the behavior of the rags lunatica Jan 2020 #14
Daily Mail is very right wing and has usually veered pro-Trump, anti-Dems in their coverage wishstar Jan 2020 #17
Bingo! arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #30
DUers are making this about royals instead of racism IronLionZion Jan 2020 #18
Wow. Raven123 Jan 2020 #20
How about we ask another one of the UK's favorite citizens? Initech Jan 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2020 #22
I never had a doubt Joinfortmill Jan 2020 #23
It's just so wrong, on so many levels. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #25
Then, there were the pics on the Queen's desk Duppers Jan 2020 #26
This is what I believe to be the truth: madaboutharry Jan 2020 #27
The Daily Fail. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #28
The Daily Heil ! Myrddin Jan 2020 #29
There's such a thing as baby bump "experts"? Dukkha Jan 2020 #34
The British press is abominable. northoftheborder Jan 2020 #35
The Daily Mail is a tabloid rag. blueinredohio Jan 2020 #36
a local PBS station aired the movie "King Charles III" last night. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2020 #37
I watched it last year w/o knowing what it was about prior to seeing it. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #38

Leith

(7,864 posts)
1. Yeah, that's pretty damn blatant
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020

Poor Meghan is not the only one. We all know that the US media treats rethugs lightyears better than Democrats and liberals.

When a rich kids scroos up bad enough to get someone killed, the worst thing they say is "affluenza." If a poor kid gets stopped by police, he or she is lucky to not get tazed or kicked while handcuffed. If Obama is seen in a tan suit, it's "omg! What was he thinking!" If somebody dregs up a photo of Reagan or either Bush in a tan suit, nuttin'.



Maraya1969

(23,495 posts)
39. Remember when Obama said that if he had a son he would look
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jan 2020

like Trevon Martin and the fucks at Fox news had a fit?


Some people don't even try to hide it.

IndyOp

(15,750 posts)
2. I never gave a shat about the Royals - accept for admiring Diana's courage and work -
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

but the treatment of Meghan and Archie literally sends pulses of heat up my spine.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
4. Shameful.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jan 2020

Not sure I would expect the readership to remember how the paper handled it in the past, but the damned editors sure should have done a search!

knightmaar

(748 posts)
5. I had tried really hard not to follow anything royal
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jan 2020

It's just super annoying, tabloid crap.
And when it isn't, it's "Ooh, let's make a big deal about rich people."
Until two days ago, I honestly didn't know about Meghan's heritage and only had a vague idea that the two brothers and their wives were producing lots of babies on a regular basis.

Then I saw this racism crap and I had to look into because I didn't even know where the racism could be.

Now, I'm like, "How in the ever loving fuck did they think this was okay this whole time?"

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
19. My feeling this whole time was, "I thought we kicked King George's ass!"
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jan 2020

Imagine the U.S. press if we had lost.

But yes, any double-standard is shameful--and especially for this reason.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
31. I'm living in Canada ...
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jan 2020

... we got our independence a bit later by asking for it nicely. Different strat.

But, you know, these two are welcome to come to Canada to get away from racism. I guess it must be slightly better here, but I'm a white guy so I'll have to take their word for it.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
32. With the publicity this is generating, Canada might consider a wall from Minnesota to Washingyon
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jan 2020

state to protect its southern border from American immigrants.

Trudeau will get us to pay for it.

mcar

(46,055 posts)
8. I was looking at this earlier
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jan 2020

One after the other - some of them were written by the same person. If Kate did it, Yay! If Meghan did it, what's wrong with her?

ToxMarz

(2,929 posts)
10. It's not a double standard, it's the standard
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020

The Royal family are the original Keeping up with the Kardashians. They are subsidised by the UK taxpayer for their entertainment. And they are expected to be entertaining. 24/7. The $$$media needs a constant horse race (just like our political entertainment press). It's not a double standard, it's what they have to sell. The royal family is a commodity, the press is their marketing department. They came to be before twitter, instagram and realiy television, but it's the same thing (just old school)

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
24. the double standard is clearly evident in the article
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jan 2020

the following is facile, and clear misrepresents the situation

"The royal family is a commodity, the press is their marketing department."

Nope. Marketing is what NASCAR, Bud Light Super Bowl, and U.S. Marine Corps does.
What the paparazzi does is bait hunting on a game ranch. Kinda different things.

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
11. I really have no dog in this fight
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:18 PM
Jan 2020

but it is easy to find blatant examples of racism toward Duchess Meghan.

In addition, Harry has been very clear that the obsession by the tabloid press caused his mother's death.

So racism and physical danger seem pretty big motivators to make some changes.

In addition, Harry is pretty far down the line of succession, so this should not be such a big deal.

Should he have talked it over with his father and grandmother first as part of a process....well, yes. Any family would expect that kind

of involvement over such a big change.

But again, I am not British, so my opinion is just that...mine.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
12. Privilege or no, such catty, bitchy coverage would get old for anyone
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020

There’s no missing the snobbery in the disparate coverage.

wishstar

(5,829 posts)
17. Daily Mail is very right wing and has usually veered pro-Trump, anti-Dems in their coverage
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jan 2020

they fawn over Kate and trash Megan quite consistently

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
18. DUers are making this about royals instead of racism
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jan 2020

We didn't like how the conservative press treated the Obamas either. Everything Barack, Michelle, or Malia or Sasha did was supposedly very scandalous. But completely different treatment of our porn star president and his nude model wife.

Prince Harry's marriage to a mixed race American got more bad press than his pedophile uncle's abuse of young girls with Jeffrey Epstein. It's absolutely deplorable behavior.

Daily Mail is a favorite tabloid of Freepers and other conservative idiots who think the BBC and the Guardian are too liberal.

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

PatrickforO

(15,424 posts)
25. It's just so wrong, on so many levels.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jan 2020

Michelle Obama had to endure this ugliness too.

What is wrong with people?

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
26. Then, there were the pics on the Queen's desk
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jan 2020

This past Christmas...

Queen Elizabeth Features Photos of Royal Family Members in Preview of Christmas Day Address
Noticeably absent from the queen's desktop gallery? Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.


https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a30316770/queen-christmas-address-2019-family-photos-desk/

An obvious slight.

We Americans are used to more egalitarian ways. I think Meghan's way of viewing the world reminds Harry of his mother and all the Royals' slights against her.

So, this was not just the press and tabloids but how Meghan was being treated by all the Royals themselves. Obviously Harry loves her very much - she reminds him a bit of his mom and her disregard for the palace's edicts.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
27. This is what I believe to be the truth:
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jan 2020

Certain people in Britain see Meghan as an interloper and one who isn’t a white person, which makes her a double interloper.

The Obamas were seen this way too. Remember that after the first inauguration all the Tea Party nuts were running around screaming that they “wanted their country back.” That was code for “we don’t want black people living in The White House!”

Yeah, racism isn’t going anywhere.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
34. There's such a thing as baby bump "experts"?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jan 2020

or how about Princess Michael of Kent wearing an obvious racist brooch when lunching with Meghan Markle

northoftheborder

(7,637 posts)
35. The British press is abominable.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jan 2020

Cruel, aggressive, ravenous. They have been this way for decades. When we think our press is bad, just look at the way they have behaved over the years. I don't know the appropriate way for the royals or any others targeted with their venom to react, but they have abused "freedom of the press" for the most egregious reasons.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
36. The Daily Mail is a tabloid rag.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jan 2020

The same kind of people read it that read the National Enquirer.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
37. a local PBS station aired the movie "King Charles III" last night.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jan 2020

It is based on a 2014 play. In it William and Kate manipulate their way onto the throne. Prince Harry has a black British girlfriend who is told not to attend the coronation. Plus it is intimated that Harry is not the son of Charles. Harry desires to go out on his own to earn his way in the world. It is uncanny at times. The movie came out in 2017.

Here's more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_%28film%29?wprov=sfla1

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. I watched it last year w/o knowing what it was about prior to seeing it.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:55 PM
Jan 2020

I caught it on my local PBS station as well.

A fascinating film using Shakespearean-style dialog right down to iambic pentameter and prose to really 'up' the dramatic tension.

Coming into the movie cold was a shock, as I've never seen the royal family placed into such a negative, yet plausible (?) light. Place the classic dialog and monologues on top of that and I was simply mesmerized for ninety minutes.

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