The GOP is gone: You have the TEA Party and the Trumps

[FairDemocrat]

This why we are going into a Global Economy with Global interests running America..Wake up!!

[Xipe Totec]

1. The conservative movement is nearly finished

going through the bowels of the Republican party.

It was a painfully slow movement that started with Reagan.

it was accompanied by the sonorous thunder of Limbaugh, Coulter, and Hanity,

and it will end appropriately with a perfect Trump.

[flying rabbit]

2. Well put.

[FairDemocrat]

3. Reagan changed the regulation laws back in 1987..I could find it

This created FOX news and Talk radio, and allowed Rupert Murdach from another Country to spam Americas news..Rupert Murdach is banned in the UK/Canada and Germany..They don't have any Fox news networks..Rupert Murdach used phone hacking in the UK and hacked the prime minister, they proved it in their courts...That is what we have right now in the USA

[quartz007]

4. I beg to differ!

There never has been a conservative movement since 1960.
All the republicans have produced is politicians who have sold out the hard working middle class by shipping huge chunks of manufacturing to cheaper labor countries. This is required by the mega-rich donors who keep republicans in power and who profit by shipping industry abroad.

Republican party as we know it is dead and gone.

[JHB]

8. You are making a rhetorical separation between..

...what you define as "a conservative movement" and the actual people who are part of "Movement Conservativism".

If you're arguing that the Movement Conservatives are actually radicals, I understand that point, but in the here and now they still carry a mantle of "conservative" that many of their fellow travelers accept without question.

And if that's not what you were arguing, I must ask you to elaborate on your perspective as to why "There never has been a conservative movement since 1960."

[quartz007]

18. That should be straight forward...

The most "conservative" of them all, Ronald Reagan, did a lot to open China exports to United States. I have lived in Chicago for 37 years, and have seen with my own eyes how many factory buildings lie boarded up and rotting. So...after IKE, the so called conservatives have exported more and more jobs abroad. My favorite president remains JFK. He had everything, oodles of charisma, compassion for the underclass, and good economic policies.

[Xipe Totec]

9. No need to beg; differing opinions are allowed. nt

[quartz007]

19. Cheers!

I admire your willingness to listen to different opinions.

[Blue_true]

6. I don't think it will end.

Rightwing evangelicals have taken over the Republican Party. Once the Trump bloom fades, evangelicals will latch on to the next rightwing craze, just like they took over the tea party before Trumpism came along.

[Xipe Totec]

10. Evangelicals have lost their mojo

They just don't know it yet.

[FairDemocrat]

12. I watched Pat Robinson call out a hit on Hugo Chavez on his Evangelist show

I couldn't believe it; because he wouldn't give G W Bush his oil supply and join OPEC..
What the hell is that?

[JHB]

5. No. The TEA party was ALWAYS the GOP. They pretended otherwise as a cop-out.

Republican base voters flocked to the manufactured "Tea Party" because they guy they'd heedlessly supported completely blew the occupation of Iraq and botched of the response to Katrina and swan-dived into the Great Recession. The Republicans lost because of it, but many of them desperately wanted to wash their hands of Bush-stink, so they rebranded as the "Tea Party".

The GOP has been fine with this sort of shit since they voted to make Newt Gingrich the Speaker of the House instead of casting him out as a fearmongering liar. Or earlier, it you want to get technical about it. But definitely on the very same trajectory since Newt.

No disownership, no escape pods, no lifeboats. Trump is the party and the party is Trump. And conservatives were the ones who re-engineered their party to make that happen, whether it was their intent or not.

[RKP5637]

7. It needs a new name! n/t

[FairDemocrat]

11. Well put, because they are far from being conservative..Amish are conservatives

[inwiththenew]

13. This has been brewing for probably 30 years

During the Cold War various rightwing factions (small government, pro business, religious right) were united in their opposition to Communism. After the wall fell there has been a fight for the direction of the party.

[FairDemocrat]

15. Longer than that look up Ronald Regans 30 year plan the republicans put thier signature on

[world wide wally]

14. Here is something we may not take into consideration enough:

As much as we like to claim that Americans can think "independently" most of us don't.
Poll after poll reveals that most Americans are left of center, yet come election time, conservatives believe that being "conservative" is synonymous with being "anti- liberals" (plural), therefore they constantly vote against their own self interests because they think they are "conservatives"
Let's hope this Trump debacle wakes them up!

[FairDemocrat]

17. Sheep think it is easier to all wear the same hat..I was taught to think for myself. Look at facts

when you can't have discussion with some body that has to resort to name calling, it is a waist of your time. That is always a clear reminder of the level of education the person has.. There are college classes that are mandatory for students to pass to understand these facts.

[Caliman73]

16. Actually, they have just arrived at their inevitable end stage.

Republicans have historically been about taking government out of the equation when it came to business. In the period after WWII they incorporated anti-communism (as did Democrats, but never as staunchly). They could never really win on a platform of corporatism and militarism so they had to allow religious zealots and White Supremacists to join the coalition. It was inevitable as the right wing began to distill itself by creating the "bubble" or right wing echo chamber, that they would become more extreme. Trump isn't really even a part of the coalition. He is just an opportunist grifter who has been able to rile up the nativist, sexist, racist element of the GOP base and keep them in thrall the way that the standard GOP dog whistle politics couldn't.

A Global economy is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing as long as all people adapt universal human rights, a living wage, fair trade, and a sustainability mentality. The problem with the Global economy as currently envisioned is that the wealthy want to expand into and exploit markets with cheaper labor, not caring whether they are working with cruel regimes as long as profits are maximized.

The EU has shown, with some problems, that countries can maintain a distinctive cultural identity while adopting some common practices. The idea of some "Global interest" running America is unlikely. What we have right now is not a globalist conspiracy. What we have is a president who is compromised by his own greed and stupidity, a country (Russia) that is bent on recapturing power and glory by destabilizing the Western economies and values systems, and corporations, American and International, who don't really care one way or another as long as their profits are maximized.